VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2B Final] [Grym Gudinna Games]

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The_Man_With_No_Name said:
By the way, Is Angelica serious on S-Sub or is it just a shit test?

Kane because of his parents, has some status to go from nothing to taking over, but Angelica is a badlander. That would be the biggest moonshot ever.

Has Tess said anything about an endgame Angelica main on S-Sub?
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Yea, we've all been wondering the same thing.

My first thought was that Alessandra put her up to it as a test of loyalty for Kane.

I don't really pay attention to variables, but Mav said something along the lines of she will only approach you with that offer if you're the highest possible rank you can be on the secret sub route. So maybe that's an indication that Angelica really is just overly ambitious.
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This is correct Kinky.

She will continue with Alessa but she may also get her own branching route also. From what I 'knew'...it will be possible to get away from Alessa as the Eloise and Elena SS routes have yet to start and when I asked, despite being as vague as possible (annoyingly as always), Tess indicated that you would not need a seperate save for their routes, so therefore I take it that they can start while still on the standard branch Alessa SS route.

As for her being overly ambitious, nothing wrong with that and I think a branch route for her where as she stated, having Alessa on her knees under her....could end up being a very interesting path....if it happens. I think it could though, as yes, it requires two distinct flags to get that conversation. She has already been promoted to a full T1 romance (from her previous lesser T2 route) and you will only get that as a dom. So really, it's not that much of a branch when you think about it, still the exact same dom route for Kane, the only difference would be a slightly different 'romance' (or torture depending on points) where you're still bad ass aiming for the top but defer to her sexually instead on the SS path rather than being on her normal T1 romance path.
 
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Maviarab said:
She will continue with Alessa but she may also get her own branching route also. From what I 'knew'...it will be possible to get away from Alessa as the Eloise and Elena SS routes have yet to start and when I asked, despite being as vague as possible (annoyingly as always), Tess indicated that you would not need a seperate save for their routes, so therefore I take it that they can start while still on the standard branch Alessa SS route.
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Yeah I've been to her discord on occasion. She's...unique. I guess to be expected from someone who makes this game.
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As for her being overly ambitious, nothing wrong with that and I think a branch route for her where as she stated, having Alessa on her knees under her....could end up being a very interesting path....if it happens. I think it could though, as yes, it requires two distinct flags to get that conversation. She has already been promoted to a full T1 romance (from her previous lesser T2 route) and you will only get that as a dom. So really, it's not that much of a branch when you think about it, still the exact same dom route for Kane, the only difference would be a slightly different 'romance' (or torture depending on points) where you're still bad ass aiming for the top but defer to her sexually instead on the SS path rather than being on her normal T1 romance path.
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Sounds great. I'm wondering how Veronica would allow Kane and Angelica to displace the Karlssons in the Gambit. Unless its some type of multi-woman ending with another Karlsson sister also "winning". It will be interesting to see how that ending will play out.
 
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The_Man_With_No_Name said:
Sounds great. I'm wondering how Veronica would allow Kane and Angelica to displace the Karlssons in the Gambit. Unless its some type of multi-woman ending with another Karlsson sister also "winning". It will be interesting to see how that ending will play out.
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I think it depends on how seriously Veronica takes her father's legacy..So far we know (in Veronica's own words) that Gambit is not too important to her (whatever that means), but that phrase alone certainly can't reveal how much she doesn't care about Gambit and whether she's willing to break Alexander's genetic line, allowing Angelica to become the mother of the future heir of the empire.

We have a sheet with Dom Kane's possible romances, showing the different World States and the combinations of possible LIs for those states. This sheet was published by Tess up to the point where she heeded our wishes and moved Angelica from T2 to T1.

However, based on this information and assuming that Angelica T1 will remain in the same position (i.e. "solo romance" in WS A), it could mean that there could theoretically be a state where DKane would rule with a strong-willed but obedient wife Angelica, and all other contenders for the role of the heir's mother would be eliminated/unable to claim their share of power in one way or another. Thus, Alexander's lineage is interrupted, and the bastard heir of the empire is born by Angelica of "non-blue blood".

Ofc, there may be the option you write about - DKane and Angelica have the power, but formally there is one "winning" sister Karlsson, who will probably become the one who will give birth to the heir to the empire, but she will be under the power of DKane and Angelica (imo). Personally, I would have preferred that in the finale, Dom Kane, who got all the power, would have had two obedient wives, Olivia and Angelica, and Liv would have been the mother of the future heir.
 
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Stan5851 said:
I think it depends on how seriously Veronica takes her father's legacy..So far we know (in Veronica's own words) that Gambit is not too important to her (whatever that means), but that phrase alone certainly can't reveal how much she doesn't care about Gambit and whether she's willing to break Alexander's genetic line, allowing Angelica to become the mother of the future heir of the empire.

We have a sheet with Dom Kane's possible romances, showing the different World States and the combinations of possible LIs for those states. This sheet was published by Tess up to the point where she heeded our wishes and moved Angelica from T2 to T1.

However, based on this information and assuming that Angelica T1 will remain in the same position (i.e. "solo romance" in WS A), it could mean that there could theoretically be a state where DKane would rule with a strong-willed but obedient wife Angelica, and all other contenders for the role of the heir's mother would be eliminated/unable to claim their share of power in one way or another. Thus, Alexander's lineage is interrupted, and the bastard heir of the empire is born by Angelica of "non-blue blood".

Ofc, there may be the option you write about - DKane and Angelica have the power, but formally there is one "winning" sister Karlsson, who will probably become the one who will give birth to the heir to the empire, but she will be under the power of DKane and Angelica (imo). Personally, I would have preferred that in the finale, Dom Kane, who got all the power, would have had two obedient wives, Olivia and Angelica, and Liv would have been the mother of the future heir.
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Great. Not only are world states labeled A-D, now factions are as well. Unless this is the same thing.

I now faction details are coming soon, but is there a cheat sheet or anything detailing world states? Letters are referenced all the time and its easy to lose track of what means what.
 
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Kulman said:
I asked some time ago, but I was wondering if it perhaps changed.

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Dom MC is never really tormented. Revenge is something only a sub path MC would need. And no, sub MC is probably not going to be getting much revenge. Not that type of game. On being dominant though...
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The_Man_With_No_Name said:
Great. Not only are world states labeled A-D, now factions are as well. Unless this is the same thing.

I now faction details are coming soon, but is there a cheat sheet or anything detailing world states? Letters are referenced all the time and its easy to lose track of what means what.
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Just search my name in the thread and world state or WS: and it should bring up all the relevant posts for you.
 
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What would be the ideal way to play Olivia for a Grey (not a goody goody but not evil) Dom Kane. I want them to work together either as equals or Olivia under Kane.
 
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liberatorus said:
What would be the ideal way to play Olivia for a Grey (not a goody goody but not evil) Dom Kane. I want them to work together either as equals or Olivia under Kane.
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Probably Good Olivia. Olivia no matter what has a fascination with power. But Evil Olivia wants power so she can indulge in it and get off and is more selfish in general.

If you want them as partners (though favoring Kane as boss depending on how well he does) have Dom Olivia.

Sub Olivia was always strange to me and with it the story really hinges on the line "she's the world's greatest actress" to make it work. But if you want her clearly under Kane that's the way to go.

Good dom Olivia and greyish-favoring good dom Kane is one of my main saves and it works really well.
 
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liberatorus said:
What would be the ideal way to play Olivia for a Grey (not a goody goody but not evil) Dom Kane. I want them to work together either as equals or Olivia under Kane.
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Good Olivia, no options. And It's better to make her initially submissive, it won't affect the attitude of those around her (in the sense that it won't harm her in any way)..Olivia already has a lot of power and is one step away from becoming a Board member, so consider a sub Olivia as a personal bonus for Dom Kane. You don't have to make Liv completely sub, though, but having 7"SisSub" pts at the start of 0.8.2 definitely makes sense.
 
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Stan5851 said:
Good Olivia, no options. And It's better to make her initially submissive, it won't affect the attitude of those around her (in the sense that it won't harm her in any way)..Olivia already has a lot of power and is one step away from becoming a Board member, so consider a sub Olivia as a personal bonus for Dom Kane. You don't have to make Liv completely sub, though, but having 7"SisSub" pts at the start of 0.8.2 definitely makes sense.
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Thanks I will probably have a different save for evil kane and olivia
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Yes...very much. Don't worry about getting Kanes Demon flag (actually gotten through Olivia's actions) as it is not going to be caalled ever again. Olivia's Demoness flag is however still in use and if having an evil save, would very much recommend going feet first in.
 
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Thanks I will probably have a different save for evil kane and olivia
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Different saves definitely make sense. As for the demoness Olivia, yes, she can be called "pure evil", as such a Liv is not just doing evil, but is willing to kill innocents for fun and amusement.
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I got Veronica sponsor first and I am K9, realized i haven't gotten any other sponsorships yet. Looks like you need to do evil Dominique if you want her sponsorship if you got Veronica first. Does this matter at all for my chances to progress asap?
 
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liberatorus said:
I got Veronica sponsor first and I am K9, realized i haven't gotten any other sponsorships yet. Looks like you need to do evil Dominique if you want her sponsorship if you got Veronica first. Does this matter at all for my chances to progress asap?
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As far as I know, no it doesn't. But Stan or Mav would be able to confirm that better.

If you're following the walkthrough to maximize points...
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liberatorus said:
I got Veronica sponsor first and I am K9, realized i haven't gotten any other sponsorships yet. Looks like you need to do evil Dominique if you want her sponsorship if you got Veronica first. Does this matter at all for my chances to progress asap?
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No you don't.

You generally only get one Sponsor currently, there are ways to get two and there is a very specific path that nets you three in one run. So far though, other than flavour having a sponsor makes little difference to the actual story. The most meaningful flavour change is hitting K7 early if have Dominiques sponsor but it is just flavour.

Edit: However, this is for KaneDom....having a sponsor (and who) matters a great deal more on the SubPath.

I really wouldn't concern yourself over it.
 
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